California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, says that President Trump’s decision to send federal troops into Los Angeles is a “brazen abuse of power” and a defining moment for American democracy.Governor Newsom sits down with Michael Barbaro to discuss Mr. Trump, illegal immigration, the protests and how he thinks the standoff in Los Angeles will end.Guest: Gavin Newsom, the governor of CaliforniaBackground reading: <ul><li>President Trump has <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/us/politics/trump-domestic-military-expansion.html" target="_blank">expanded domestic use of the armed forces</a>, testing the limits on involving troops at protests and the border.</li><li>Gov. Gavin Newsom of California <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/newsom-speech-trump-la-protests.html" target="_blank">called on Americans to stand up to Mr. Trump</a> in a nationally televised address.</li></ul>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: The New York Times
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