My guest today is Bill Gates, co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft and chairman of the Gates Foundation. You may have noticed Bill in the news more lately — he’s been on something of a tour for the past few months talking about AI risk, and how crucial it is that we start taking this seriously. 
So I was excited to sit down with him and really dig into this subject. I came with many questions, about AI policy, the technical aspects of alignment, and what it means for future generations that we’re building something this disruptive and potentially dangerous.&nbsp;
Read the <a href="https://www.theverge.com/e/1015408">full interview transcript on The Verge. </a>
Links:&nbsp;
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 <li>The turbulent AI era is here. The choices we make now are critical. | <a href="https://www.gatesnotes.com/home/home-page-topic/reader/a-turbulent-ai-era-and-critical-choices-to-make">Bill Gates</a></li>
 <li>"OG" Bill Gates returns to wage war on AI risks | <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/10/15/bill-gates-ai-safety-push">Axios</a></li>
 <li>Bill Gates’s blunt warning on AI | <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/29/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-bill-gates.html">The Ezra Klein Show</a></li>
 <li>Ben Horowitz criticizes Bill Gates, Anthropic over AI safety | <a href="https://x.com/liron/status/2111491003907531106?s=20">All-In Pod</a></li>
 <li>Does Anthropic think Claude is alive? Define ‘alive’ | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/883769/anthropic-claude-conscious-alive-moral-patient-constitution">The Verge</a></li>
 <li>Microsoft AI CEO says Anthropic is making AI risks worse | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/996412/microsoft-ai-ceo-mustafa-suleyman-regulation-safety-anthropic-claude">Decoder</a></li>
 <li>Bill Gates has a good feeling about AI | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24235730/bill-gates-ai-climate-change-energy-tech-microsoft-netflix">The Verge</a> (2024)</li>
 <li>The risks of AI are real but manageable | <a href="https://www.gatesnotes.com/meet-bill/tech-thinking/reader/the-risks-of-ai-are-real-but-manageable">Bill Gates</a> (2023)</li>
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