In this Money Talks: Felix Salmon is joined by author and New York Times reporter <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-gelles">David Gelles</a> to discuss his new biography of enigmatic Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard, <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dirtbag-Billionaire/David-Gelles/9781668032268">Dirtbag Billionaire</a>. David does a deep dive into what makes the brand and its founder so unique, including the paradoxes of a wildly successful company trying to remain environmentally sustainable and a billionaire who believes all billionaires to be “policy failures.”
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