What happens when you live on a planet where grief rewrites the language of everyday life? Kate Bowler speaks with writer and New York Times editor Sarah Wildman about her daughter Orli&rsquo;s incandescent life and staggering courage while living with terminal cancer. Together they explore the limits of positivity culture, the fierce tenderness of caregiving, the sacred discomfort of truth-telling, and the love that carries us when nothing adds up. This is a conversation for anyone who has lived inside the ache&mdash;and chosen joy anyway. Show Notes: <ul> <li data-start="166" data-end="258"> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/sarah-wildman" data-start="168" data-end="258">Sarah Wildman&rsquo;s award-winning writing at The New York Times</a> </li> <li data-start="259" data-end="322"> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251Blni2AE4">Leonard Cohen&rsquo;s &ldquo;Who By Fire&rdquo;</a> </li> <li data-start="323" data-end="386"> Jewish practices of <a href="https://reformjudaism.org/beliefs-practices/lifecycle-rituals/death-mourning/everything-you-need-know-about-jewish-custom-shiva">grief (shiva)</a> and <a href="https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/383786/jewish/Bikur-Cholim-Visiting-the-Sick.htm">care (bikur cholim)</a> </li> <li data-start="387" data-end="437"> <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/katebowler/p/a-blessing-for-life-after-loss?r=4dul9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true">Blessing for Life After Loss</a> </li> <li data-start="438" data-end="566"> Support Guides: <a href="https://katebowler.com/guide/everything-happens-in-our-families/" data-start="456" data-end="500">Parenting a Medically-Complicated Child</a>, <a href="https://katebowler.com/guide/child-is-in-pain/" data-start="502" data-end="533">When Your Child is in Pain</a>, <a href="https://katebowler.com/guide/illness-happens/" data-start="535" data-end="566">When You&rsquo;ve Been Diagnosed</a> </li> <li data-start="567" data-end="662"> Orli, in all her joy: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@orli_halpern?lang=en" data-start="591" data-end="662">@orli_halpern on TikTok</a> </li> <li data-start="663" data-end="756"> For those of us who live on a different planet now: <a href="https://shop.katebowler.com/product/small-talk-survivor-pocket-t-shirt/" data-start="717" data-end="745">Small Talk Survivor Tee</a> | <a href="https://shop.katebowler.com/product/small-talk-survivor-mug/" data-start="748" data-end="756">Mug</a> </li> <li data-start="757" data-end="873"> <a href="katebowler.substack.com" data-start="759" data-end="809">Kate&rsquo;s Substack</a> &ndash; blessings, reflections, and our tender corner of the internet </li> </ul>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

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