What’s really driving the humanities crisis in higher education? As enrollment and reading decline, I asked Jennifer Frey, a professor of philosophy, what it was like to run a liberal arts program that was gutted. I wanted to know whether she thinks the age of A.I. could bring back the kind of education she says is fundamental to human formation.
<ul>
 <li>00:00 - Intro</li>
 <li>2:08 - Why study the humanities?</li>
 <li>5:00 - Do the humanities mean more morality?</li>
 <li>15:00 - Shakespeare vs. John Grisham</li>
 <li>24:07 - The Tulsa Honors College</li>
 <li>34:43 - Left-wing critiques and specialization</li>
 <li>44:10 - Is conservatism a friend to liberal arts?</li>
 <li>56:32 - Why the humanities are crucial in the age A.I.</li>
</ul>
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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