John and Craig welcome Curry Barker, the writer-director behind this summer's surprise blockbuster, Obsession. It's a rom-com, a horror film and a great example of trusting your audience. We discuss Curry's roots, his writing process, learning from YouTube, as well as the pressure to follow up a hit. In our bonus segment for premium subscribers, John and Craig pose the #1 most important question for all filmmakers to consider: What will the popcorn bucket be? Links: <ul> <li><a href= "https://www.masterclass.com/classes/aaron-sorkin-teaches-screenwriting"> Aaron Sorkin Masterclass</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhazCS14Tas">The Chair</a> by Curry Barker</li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzGQ1lszv4">Milk & Serial</a> by Curry Barker</li> <li><a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/10/science/humans-walking-veer-left-counterclockwise.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share"> Humans Veer Left</a> by Rachel Nuwer (NY Times)</li> <li><a href= "https://store.steampowered.com/app/1677770/The_Case_of_the_Golden_Idol/"> The Case of the Golden Idol</a></li> <li><a href= "https://membersonly.com/collections/mens-members-only-jackets?srsltid=AfmBOoqDbk6iVkQbdZwh5A1TKgPZcMeM1qenxVyWoc4fzgubzw8Bj9ZX"> Members Only Jackets</a></li> <li><a href="https://scriptnotesbook.com/">Get your copy of the Scriptnotes book!</a></li> <li><a href= "https://cottonbureau.com/people/scriptnotes-podcast">Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt!</a></li> <li><a href="https://blog.quoteunquoteapps.com/">Check out the Inneresting Newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="https://scriptnotes.supportingcast.fm/">Become a Scriptnotes Premium member</a>, or <a href= "https://scriptnotes.supportingcast.fm/gifts">gift a subscription</a></li> <li>Subscribe to Scriptnotes on <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/@ScriptnotesPodcast">YouTube</a></li> <li>Follow Scriptnotes on <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/scriptnotespodcast/">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@scriptnotespod">TikTok</a></li> <li>John August on <a href= "https://bsky.app/profile/johnaugust.bsky.social">Bluesky</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/johnaugust/?hl=en">Instagram</a></li> <li>Outro by Matthew Chilelli (<a href= "http://johnaugust.com/2014/outros-needed">send us yours!</a>)</li> <li>Scriptnotes is produced by Meredith Stedman and edited by <a href="https://www.matthewchilelli.com/">Matthew Chilelli</a>. Our intern is Lauren Loesberg.</li> </ul> Email us at ask@johnaugust.com You can download the episode <a href= "http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/742standard.mp3">here</a>.

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