Is gossip just a petty pastime, or a tool to empower the marginalized? Or both? From ancient hearsay to celebrity blind items to the group chat’s hottest tea, gossip has always been a part of how humans connect, but why does it carry such a negative (gendered) reputation? Host Amanda Montell (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Famanda_montell%2F%3Fhl%3Den&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994111099%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cSJNW6YH4sVTkWZHA2fFwujCwyghOouQYWqumC0SKb8%3D&reserved=0">@amanda_montell</a>) is joined by journalist, novelist, and Normal Gossip creator Kelsey McKinney (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmckinneykelsey%3Futm_source%3Dig_web_button_share_sheet%26igsh%3DZDNlZDc0MzIxNw%3D%3D&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994124275%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZroZk4D1Qvob0RQa7BsGEVimEzU%2BN9hR65gahvjpOp0%3D&reserved=0">@mckinneykelsey</a>) to unravel the fascinating etymology and moral gray areas of gossip in the digital age. Together, they explore if gossip can be an "addiction," how to get people to gossip with us *more*, if the internet has corrupted gossip's original aims, and whether it’s actually possible to be a good person and still enjoy a little harmless chatter.Further Reading: Kelsey McKinney’s <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbookshop.org%2Fp%2Fbooks%2Fyou-didn-t-hear-this-from-me-mostly-true-notes-on-gossip-kelsey-mckinney%2F21441330&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994137643%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VgwDLeepVUxFJUwxwrOyZFqMtvlcQYJyzPc199XyCHc%3D&reserved=0">You Didn’t Hear This From Me: (Mostly) True Notes on Gossip</a> (out on February 11th, 2025). - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmagicaloverthinkers&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994152711%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yhUY9Z6nRBzzJWqsqqgw528RgCjbeByqZdbTCdz3%2F%2FA%3D&reserved=0">@magicaloverthinkers.</a>- To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Famandamontell.substack.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994166783%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KLx%2BfQcPKi4Kv%2F6k5JxxqkkmP3B6L8nkxlufbZjUMc8%3D&reserved=0">Magical Overthinkers Substack</a>.- Pick up a hard copy of Amanda's book <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781668007976&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994180138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9PrjdmuJ92%2BGAmKtIduhjwvDXD%2FtbZDRkmJEid%2BGMpk%3D&reserved=0">The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality</a>, or listen to the <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FThe-Age-of-Magical-Overthinking%2FAmanda-Montell%2F9781797175577&data=05%7C02%7Cmichaela.derosa%40studio71us.com%7C82d5761c0b8d45f71f7d08dd454e92fe%7C42f71e00fe2746549915ab529795f091%7C0%7C0%7C638742925994193965%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Qh1eQmhj1felxMiRtwqw0ONiZHN54ox%2F7QzSAvIQXjY%3D&reserved=0">audiobook</a>.Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at<a href="https://shopify.com/magical"> https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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