I originally interviewed Jonathan Goldstein, creator and host of the greatest podcast of all time, <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/heavyweight">Heavyweight</a>, <a href="https://transom.org/2017/conversation-jonathan-goldstein-zak-rosen/">back in 2017 for Transom.org</a>. I'm playing it here to celebrate Heavyweight's grand return. 
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