On this episode of “The Kylee Cast,” Josh Wood, executive director of Them Before Us, joins Federalist Managing Editor Kylee Griswold to discuss the viral video of two gay “dads” laughing as the child they commissioned via surrogate cries for “mama.” Plus, Kylee and Josh discuss adoption, natural rights, and the direct line from this heartbreaking video back to <i>Obergefell.</i>Follow Josh on X: <a href="https://x.com/J_K_Wood" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://x.com/J_K_Wood</a>Learn more about Them Before Us here: <a href="https://thembeforeus.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://thembeforeus.com/</a>Learn more about the Greater Than campaign here: <a href="https://greaterthancampaign.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://greaterthancampaign.com/</a>The Federalist Foundation is a nonprofit, and we depend entirely on our listeners and readers — not corporations. If you value fearless, independent journalism, please consider a tax-deductible gift today at <a href="https://TheFederalist.com/donate" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">TheFederalist.com/donate</a>. Your support keeps us going.

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