A hoy hoy! Our old friend Nick Nisi does his best to bring up TypeScript, Vim & Tmux as many times as possible while we discuss a new batch of web browsers, justify why we like the ones we do & try to figure out what it’d take to disrupt the status quo of Big Browser.

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Featuring:
<ul><li>Nick Nisi &ndash; <a href="https://twitter.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li></ul>

Show Notes:
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<li><a href="https://jsparty.fm/278">Digging through Nick Nisi’s tool box (JS Party #278)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/09/googles-widely-opposed-ad-platform-the-privacy-sandbox-launches-in-chrome/">Google gets its way, bakes a user-tracking ad platform directly into Chrome | Ars Technica</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arc.net/">Arc from The Browser Company</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sizzy.co/">Sizzy — The browser for web developers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://polypane.app/">Polypane, The browser for ambitious web developers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://browser.kagi.com">Orion Browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://vivaldi.com/">Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ladybird.dev/">The Ladybird browser project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://browser.horse/">Horse Browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/app/quiche-browser/id1668363952">Web Browser Quiche on the App Store</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/">Nyxt browser: The hacker’s browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2000/12/06/opera_browser_goes_free/">Opera browser goes free with version 5.0 launch • The Register</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r6yzFEXajQ">Nick’s vim + tmux video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCzseuA9sYrdaddcYHIaEAeuvIgr-p2ZQ">Vim with Me playlist</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CwEIyZXAIXr/">Our viral short on Instagram Reels</a></li>
<li><a href="https://social.gabekangas.com/objects/52127b6e-a652-471b-ab70-562097aab380">Gabe Kangas on Mastodon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jsparty.fm/292">Rich Harris on JS Party</a></li>
</ul>

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Timestamps:

(00:00) - Let's talk!(00:38) - 2x Clark Kent glasses(01:12) - Back to the Future II(02:28) - "Gimme a Pepsi Free"(03:26) - Crispin Glover follow-up(04:17) - Start here if you just want browser talk(04:21) - Hold on a second...(05:02) - He's back!(06:22) - Browser 101(06:45) - Becoming crotchety(07:51) - Safari is not the best browser(08:32) - Chrome v Firefox(09:55) - horse_js is dead(10:18) - The TypeScript "Exodus"(12:19) - New breed of browsers(13:39) - All praise Safari(17:46) - Safari's market share(19:16) - Browser profiles(21:47) - Firefox converters(22:45) - Too many extentions(23:49) - It's not what Apple wants(25:41) - Safari incompatabilities(28:02) - No Chrome since '16(28:19) - Ad trackers in browsers(30:12) - Your data & 3rd parties(31:00) - Tight cloud integration(33:21) - Ads on Smart TVs(34:36) - NVIDIA SHIELD(35:33) - DVD upscaling(37:11) - Sponsor: Statsig(40:55) - A FREE TV?!(41:52) - Browser business models(43:03) - Paywalls(45:28) - Polypane & Sizzy(49:16) - Confessions of Nick Nisi(51:26) - Opera history trivia!(53:38) - A browser for dev is a good idea(53:58) - We own the ++?(55:42) - Mark HackerNoon as spam(57:30) - How Zed does it(58:16) - Warp vs vim & tmux(58:57) - Nick's vim + tmux vid(1:03:29) - Viral short(1:05:33) - More "Vim with me"!(1:07:01) - What do we want?(1:09:07) - Arc tabs(1:10:57) - Orion(1:11:19) - Vivaldi(1:11:56) - Ladybird(1:13:22) - Gabe Kangas on Mastodon(1:15:54) - It takes talent(1:16:43) - How long will browsers be relevant?(1:18:33) - Why do we care?(1:20:34) - Nyxt & Quiche(1:22:04) - Power features(1:23:43) - Should we just take it?(1:24:07) - Momentum is a fickle thing(1:25:00) - We don't know(1:26:21) - The Arc club(1:27:47) - Why Adam likes newer Macs(1:29:31) - What is your tab layout?(1:33:00) - Worryied about crotchety Adam(1:33:44) - No forks of TypeScript(1:34:02) - Speaking of the perfect tweet(1:34:50) - Kids read everything(1:35:26) - A Linux-like take on browser(1:37:01) - Apple Keynote(1:39:46) - When to upgrade your iPhone(1:40:18) - No more lightning(1:40:45) - Sideloading required?(1:41:34) - Where to find Nick(1:43:35) - Coming up next (Changelog++!)

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