We have another two-for-one special this week, with two more interviews from the floor of re:Invent. First, Ryan welcomes Pathway CEO Zuzanna Stamirowska and CCO Victor Szczerba to dive into their development of Baby Dragon Hatchling, the first post-transformer frontier model, from how continual learning and memory will transform AI to the real-world use cases for longer LLM attention span.&nbsp;In the second part of this episode, Ryan is joined by Rowan McNamee, co-founder and COO of Mary Technology, to discuss bringing AI into the carefully governed world of litigation and how LLMs are helping lawyers manage and interpret the vast amounts of legal evidence that pass across their desks every day.Episode notes:&nbsp;<a href="https://pathway.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pathway</a> is building the first post-transformer frontier model that solves for attention span and continual learning.<a href="https://www.marytechnology.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Technology</a> is an AI for attorneys that turns evidentiary documents into structured, easy-to-review facts.Connect with Zuzanna on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stamirowska/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a href="https://x.com/zuzanna_pathway" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>.&nbsp;Reach out to Victor at his email: <a href="mailto:victor@pathway.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">victor@pathway.com</a>&nbsp;Connect with Rowan on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowan-mcnamee-496046182/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.We want to know what you're using to upskill and learn in the age of AI. Take&nbsp;<a href="https://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_beHfwZ2k1tEx0PA?utm_medium=email&utm_source=house-ads&utm_campaign=pulse-survey-learning&utm_content=take-survey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this five minute survey</a>&nbsp;on learning and AI to have your voice heard in our next Stack Overflow Knows Pulse Survey.<a href="https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/02/06/ai-attention-span-so-good-it-shouldn-t-be-legal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TRANSCRIPT</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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