<p>This week I’m talking with Max Stoiber, currently working on ChatGPT’s plugin directory and app platform at OpenAI. We discuss the hundreds of open source projects nobody remembers alongside the big ones like react-boilerplate and styled-components, how Spectrum became part of GitHub and eventually helped shape GitHub Discussions, the founder growth that came from building Stellate, the GraphQL cache that turned into a dual acquisition by Shopify and The Guild, and why ChatGPT apps feel like a new surface for software.</p>
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<li><a href="https://mxstbr.com/">Max Stoiber</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/mxstbr">Max Stoiber on GitHub</a></li>
<li><a href="https://openai.com/">OpenAI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://chatgpt.com/">ChatGPT</a></li>
<li><a href="https://openai.com/index/developers-can-now-submit-apps-to-chatgpt/">Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT</a></li>
<li><a href="https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/developer-mode">ChatGPT Developer mode</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/openai/openai-apps-sdk-examples">OpenAI Apps SDK examples</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/openai/apps-sdk-ui">OpenAI Apps SDK UI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">Model Context Protocol</a></li>
</ul>
<h4>Max’s open source and community path</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://styled-components.com/">styled-components</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/styled-components/styled-components">styled-components on GitHub</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/react-boilerplate/react-boilerplate">react-boilerplate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mxstbr.com/oss">Max’s open source projects</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spec.fm/">Spec.fm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.packtpub.com/en-es/learning/tech-news/github-acquires-spectrum-a-community-centric-conversational-platform">GitHub acquires Spectrum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/features/discussions">GitHub Discussions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slack.com/">Slack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://circle.so/">Circle</a></li>
</ul>
<h4>GraphQL and Stellate</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://stellate.co/">Stellate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://stellate.co/blog/announcing-stellate">Announcing Stellate, the CDN for GraphQL APIs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://stellate.co/blog/graphcdn-is-now-stellate">GraphCDN is now Stellate and we’ve raised $30M</a></li>
<li><a href="https://the-guild.dev/graphql/hive/blog/stellate-acquisition">The Guild acquires Stellate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://graphql.org/">GraphQL</a></li>
<li><a href="https://the-guild.dev/graphql/hive">GraphQL Hive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://the-guild.dev/graphql/yoga-server">GraphQL Yoga</a></li>
<li><a href="https://graphql.org/swapi-graphql/">GraphiQL</a></li>
<li><a href="https://firebase.google.com/">Firebase</a></li>
<li><a href="https://vercel.com/">Vercel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rethinkdb.com/">RethinkDB</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/">Apollo Client</a></li>
<li><a href="https://commerce.nearform.com/open-source/urql/docs/">urql</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/graphql/dataloader">DataLoader</a></li>
</ul>
<h4>Shopify and storefronts</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/">Shopify</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shopify.dev/docs/api/liquid/">Shopify Liquid reference</a></li>
<li><a href="https://themes.shopify.com/">Shopify themes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://changelog.shopify.com/posts/horizon-10-new-free-themes-by-shopify">Horizon: 10 new free themes by Shopify</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shopify-horizon.mintlify.app/">Horizon documentation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/news/winter-26-edition-agentic-storefronts">Shopify Agentic Storefronts</a></li>
</ul>
<h4>ChatGPT apps and MCP</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://platform.openai.com/docs/mcp/">Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12515353-build-with-the-apps-sdk">Build with the Apps SDK</a></li>
<li><a href="https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11487775-connectors-in-chatgpt">Apps in ChatGPT</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mcp-framework.com/docs/apps/overview">MCP Apps overview</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.zillow.com/">Zillow</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.expedia.com/">Expedia</a></li>
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<h4>Leadership and founder references</h4>
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<li><a href="https://frameworkforest.com/coin/">COIN feedback framework</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gatsbyjs.com/">Gatsby</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/">GitHub</a></li>
<li><a href="https://the-guild.dev/">The Guild</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shopify.engineering/">Shopify Engineering</a></li>
</ul>
<h4>Tools, platforms, and companies mentioned</h4>
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<li><a href="https://nodejs.org/">Node.js</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">TypeScript</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bun.sh/">Bun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zed.dev/">Zed</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ghostty.org/">Ghostty</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a></li>
<li><a href="https://getdx.com/">DX</a></li>
<li><a href="https://incident.io/">Incident.io</a></li>
<li><a href="https://clerk.com/">Clerk</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.raycast.com/">Raycast</a></li>
</ul>
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