We’re so excited about this week’s Guest Thingies with <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/dusendusen/?hl=en">Ellen Van Dusen</a> of <a href= "https://www.dusendusen.com/">Dusen Dusen</a>—great recommendations await! But first, some nuggets of wisdom from famously creative famous dudes.   We’re definitely taking inspiration from <a href= "https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50403561">Rod Stewart’s model railway</a> side project and <a href= "https://www.gq.com/story/gq-hype-austin-butler">Tom Hanks's advice to Austin Butler</a>.    Ellen’s Thingies include being comfortable inside and outside the home (please see: <a href="https://www.dusendusen.com/pages/shop#bathrobe"> her delightful robes</a>…and <a href= "https://store.moma.org/accessories/apparel/dusen-dusen-for-moma-subu-slippers/17875-160523.html#q=dusen&lang=en_US&start=1"> brand-new slippers</a>!!), <a href="https://www.instagram.com/favetiktoks420/">@Favetiktoks420</a> on Instagram, and cool silverware (especially <a href= "https://collection.cooperhewitt.org/objects/18621771/"> David Tisdale’s Picnic Flatware</a>, which makes us think of <a href= "https://ahimsahome.com/">Ahimsa dinnerware for kids</a>). She also loves tile right now—see: <a href= "https://www.heathceramics.com/pages/heath-tile?utm_campaign=%7Bcampaign%7D&adgroup=%7Badgroup%7D&utm_content=591167398047&utm_term=tiles&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmdGYBhDRARIsABmSEePJI2LQZl493sC7EAen8bmv0bBfaRBepywM5HiPrlPPRzJOCbW8bnoaAgZmEALw_wcB"> Heath Ceramics</a>, <a href="https://concretelove.com/products/cooler-gallery-flower-dusen-dusen-box-of-13?_pos=1&_sid=84382caf8&_ss=r"> her collab with Concrete Collaborative</a>, <a href="https://www.fireclaytile.com/">Fireclay</a>, and <a href= "https://oasistile.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwmdGYBhDRARIsABmSEeMqgaXG-cFwX3jVFkkBRUajtv8L_c4zfSh4btg8-DFCAiSqZM0UnbEaAoAyEALw_wcB"> Oasis</a>—and you have to, have to check out <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CUliB7ONIrE/">her backyard mosaic</a>. Last but not least: Her love of bird-watching has us asking when she’s going to start selling <a href= "https://www.bbg.org/feature/birdhouses/ellen_van_dusen"> the birdhouse she designed</a> for <a href= "https://www.bbg.org/">Brooklyn Botanic Garden</a> (in the meantime, <a href= "https://store.moma.org/for-the-home/home/indoor-outdoor-gardening/wildlife-garden-birdhouse-and-feeder/400274-400274.html#q=birdhouse&lang=en_US&start=1"> the MoMA one</a> we’re all into). Ooh, and as we told Ellen, Where'd You Go, Bernadette is <a href= "https://bookshop.org/a/1385/9780316204262">a great book</a> and <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/movie/whered-you-go-bernadette-3ff159e6-e8b7-4f6a-b911-9218f4a6c22d?entity_id=3ff159e6-e8b7-4f6a-b911-9218f4a6c22d"> a much better movie</a> than it gets credit for being.   Share your dream Thingies guests with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or <a href="https://www.instagram.com/athingortwohq/">@athingortwohq</a>. And for more recommendations, try out <a href="https://www.athingortwohq.com/secret-menu">a Secret Menu membership</a>.   Give professional counseling a shot with <a href= "http://betterhelp.com/athingortwo">BetterHelp</a> and take 10% off your first month with our link. Help your curly hair look its best with <a href="http://lusbrands.com">LUS</a> and get 15% off your first purchase of $50 or more with the code ATHINGORTWO. YAY.   Produced by <a href="http://www.dearmedia.com/">Dear Media</a>

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