This episode originally ran on January 6, 2025 on the Jokermen Podcast. Subscribe to <a href="https://episodes.fm/1519299517">Jokermen</a>.The Jokermen and Josh Tillman discuss creative process, theories of schmaltz, The Beatles, mental health, fatherhood and breakfast, among other thingsFind more illuminating podcasts on the <a href="https://www.talkhouse.com/talkhouse-podcast-network/">Talkhouse Podcast Network</a>.Visit <a href="https://www.talkhouse.com/">talkhouse.com</a> to read essays, reviews, and more.Follow @talkhouse on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkhouse">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/talkhouse.bsky.social">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://x.com/Talkhouse">Twitter (X)</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@talkhouse">Threads</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/talkhouse">Facebook</a>.

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