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<p>In this episode of <em>The Open Source Way</em>, Karsten Hohage chats with Sonja Lienard, Senior Vice President  and Head of ABAP Platform at SAP SE. They delve into Sonja&#8217;s professional journey, her contributions to ABAP development, and the significant role open source technologies play at SAP. </p>



<p>The discussion covers Sonja&#8217;s involvement with various programming languages, the integration of Eclipse IDE and Rust into ABAP development, and the importance of bottom-up innovation. Sonja emphasizes the value of swarm intelligence and the necessity for senior management to grant developers the freedom to explore open source projects.</p>



<p>Tune in for an engaging conversation on how open source drives both external collaboration and internal development at SAP – from a senior manager&#8217;s perspective!</p>



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<p><strong>Sonja Liénard</strong></p>



<p>Sonja Liénard is Senior Vice President and Head of ABAP Platform at SAP SE. In her role, she leads a global engineering organization and defines the long-term vision, strategy, and roadmap of the ABAP platform in multiple areas such as Generative Artificial Intelligence, ABAP Cloud, ABAP Platform Infrastructure, and Custom Code Transformation for SAP’s Clean Core strategy.</p>



<p>Follow Sonja on LinkedIn: <a href="https://url.sap/r4jsw5" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonjalienard/</a></p>



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<h4 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Show Notes</strong>:</h4>



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<li><a href="https://url.sap/ce7clx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SAP Help Portal | ABAP Development Tools for Eclipse</a></li>



<li><a href="https://url.sap/rwtajr" data-type="link" data-id="https://url.sap/rwtajr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SAP Learning | Learn the Basics of ABAP Programming on SAP BTP</a></li>



<li><a href="https://url.sap/adryah" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Open Source Way | License Compliance – From risks to developer friendly processes</a></li>



<li><a href="https://url.sap/7jes27" data-type="link" data-id="https://url.sap/7jes27" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Open Source Way | Rust – A Language on the Rise</a></li>



<li><a href="https://url.sap/our85b" data-type="link" data-id="https://url.sap/our85b" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Open Source Way | Eclipse Dirigible – An Open-Source Platform for End-To-End Rapid Development of Business Applications</a></li>
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<li><strong>SAP Open Source Program Office</strong>
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<li><a href="https://url.sap/yjvtpf" data-type="link" data-id="https://url.sap/yjvtpf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Innovation at SAP | SAP Open Source</a></li>



<li><a href="https://url.sap/6bvkla" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SAP Community | SAP Open Source</a></li>



<li><a href="https://twitter.com/sapopensource" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="">SAP Open Source Twitter (@sapopensource)</a></li>



<li>Email us: <a href="mailto:ospo@sap.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ospo@sap.com</a></li>
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<li><strong>Additional Downloads</strong>
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<li>Download the <a href="https://sap-podcast-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/open-source-way/25-09-opensourceway-50.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">transcript</a> as PDF file</li>
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<li><strong>Try out an open-source podcast player</strong> – find a list <a href="https://podcastindex.org/apps?appTypes=podcast+player%2Copen+source" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="">here</a> (list not maintained by SAP)</li>
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<h4 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Host:</strong></h4>



<p id="block-8a35e260-02e9-46d4-b577-8f76035e8027"><strong>Karsten Hohage –&nbsp;</strong>Product Expert in Technology and Innovation (T&I)</p>


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<p id="block-1d15dfc9-26db-4233-a5d1-8b8dc19dce9a">Follow Karsten on LinkedIn: <a href="https://url.sap/kdbxun" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/karsten-hohage-0180312/</a></p>



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