The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Kirk Goldsberry to talk about how vulnerable the OKC Thunder are after their loss to the Celtics before Joe House joins for some quick NBA takes (3:38). Then, they discuss whether there are enough historical signs to indicate that teams shouldn't trade for Giannis at this point in his career (59:51).

Host: Bill Simmons
Guests: Kirk Goldsberry and Joe House
Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo

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