We’re back with more from our live event at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco. In this episode, we sit down with Dylan Field, a founder and the chief executive of the design company Figma, for what he describes as a “roller coaster” of a conversation. We cover everything from the company’s “Design Is Dead” campaign to the sudden resignation of the Anthropic executive Mike Krieger from Figma’s board. Then, we close things out with a special musical performance by eight wooden robotic dolls that make up the Teenage Engineering Choir.
One quick correction to note: In our interview with Field, he makes reference to the SpaceX S-1 filing and misstates what the company says their addressable market for A.I. enterprise applications is. Field says “$22.9 trillion,” but the correct number from the SpaceX filing is $22.7 trillion. The decimal point makes it look small, but it’s a difference of $200 billion.
We’ll be back on Friday with our final installment of “Hard Fork” Live.
 
Guests:
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 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanfield/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dylan Field,</a> chief executive and co-founder of Figma.</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/dan-powell" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dan Powell</a>, robot conductor, New York Times music composer and “Hard Fork” theme-song creator.</li>
 <li><a href="https://teenage.engineering/products/choir?srsltid=AfmBOoq1CKbYW4sSZ5zDMEX17U-Zbep_tmUCydfK1n9n-wSMuWL51MGM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Teenage Engineering Choir</a></li>
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Additional Reading:
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 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/technology/figma-ipo.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">This Start-Up’s $20 Billion Sale Died. It Came Fighting Back.</a></li>
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