&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Last week, Lulu heard an interview that trapped her in her car. She decided to play it for Latif.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;The interview – originally from a podcast called &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://relentlesspicnic.com/"&gt;&lt;span&gt;The Relentless Picnic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;, but presented by one of Lulu’s current podcast faves, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://pineapple.fm/the-11th"&gt;&lt;span&gt;The 11th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt; – is part of an episode of mini pep talks designed to help us all get through this cold, dark, second-pandemic-winter-in-a-row. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;But the segment that Lulu brings Latif is about someone trying to get through something arguably much more difficult, something a pep talk can’t solve, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;but that a couple friends — and one very generous stranger — might be able to help make a little more bearable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;The episode of The 11th this comes from is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/im-here-to-pep-you-up/id1566642706?i=1000547543765"&gt;&lt;span&gt;“I’m Here to Pep You Up.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt; The Relentless Picnic is currently running a series of episodes called CABIN, an audio exploration of isolation, which you can listen to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qvthPp5wUlGhJrWK4o9nI"&gt;&lt;span&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;. The organization where Matt volunteers as a counselor is called &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/early-death-and-sudep/sudep"&gt;&lt;span&gt;SUDEP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;. The Lu Olkowski story Lulu recommends at the end of the episode is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/segments/91568-grandpa"&gt;&lt;span&gt;“Grandpa,”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt; and the lobster story Latif recommends is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/91969-the-luckiest-lobster"&gt;&lt;span&gt;“The Luckiest Lobster.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Special Thanks:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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