Viral spread, this week’s guest reminds us, “happens through very normative life activities: sex, breathing, handshaking, hugging, just being. The things that we have to do to stay alive.” So what happens when we encounter viruses through these activities? The answer often depends on who “we” are. Listen in as Dr. Steven W. Thrasher and Jonathan explore how social inequalities in the US and beyond shape how viruses spread—and who is most vulnerable when they do. A note from team Getting Curious: We recorded this episode with Dr. Thrasher back in May, just as we started hearing about the international monkeypox outbreak, so even though this episode holds great relevance, you won’t hear much about monkeypox in the conversation itself. We’ll hope to have updated coverage and commentary on our @CuriouswithJVN social media pages soon. CW: This episode discusses police violence, bodily harm, and hateful rhetoric. Steven W. Thrasher, PhD holds the inaugural Daniel H. Renberg chair at Northwestern University's Medill School, the first journalism professorship in the world created to focus on LGBTQ research. A columnist for Scientific American, his writing has been widely published by The New York Times, Nation, The Atlantic, Journal of American History, Esquire and New York Magazine. In 2019, Out Magazine named him one of the 100 most influential and impactful people of the year, and the Ford Foundation awarded him a grant for Creativity and Free Expression. <a href="https://celadonbooks.com/book/the-viral-underclass/" target="_blank">The Viral Underclass</a> is his first book. You can follow Steven on <a href="http://twitter.com/thrasherxy" target="_blank">Twitter</a> @thrasherxy. You can follow Celadon Books on <a href="http://twitter.com/celadonbooks" target="_blank">Twitter</a> @CeladonBooks for updates on The Viral Underclass and other books.  Join the conversation, and find out what former guests are up to, by following us on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/curiouswithjvn/?hl=en" target="_blank"> Instagram</a> and<a href="https://twitter.com/curiouswithjvn?lang=en" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> @CuriousWithJVN.  Jonathan is on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/jvn" target="_blank"> Instagram</a> and<a href="https://twitter.com/jvn?ref_src=twsrc*5Egoogle*7Ctwcamp*5Eserp*7Ctwgr*5Eauthor" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on<a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanness" target="_blank"> Facebook</a>. Transcripts for each episode are available at<a href="https://www.jonathanvanness.com/gettingcurious" target="_blank"> JonathanVanNess.com</a>. Love listening to Getting Curious? Now, you can also watch Getting Curious—on Netflix! Head to<a href="http://www.netflix.com/gettingcurious" target="_blank"> netflix.com/gettingcurious</a> to dive in. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Zahra Crim. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our socials are run and curated by<a href="https://middleseat.co/" target="_blank"> Middle Seat Digital</a>. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to<a href="http://www.thequincat.com/" target="_blank"> TheQuinCat.com</a>. Getting Curious merch is available on<a href="https://www.podswag.com/collections/getting-curious-with-jonathan-van-ness" target="_blank"> PodSwag.com</a>.

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When Viruses Spread, Who’s Most Vulnerable? with Dr. Steven W. Thrasher

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