Lyn Alden, founder of Lyn Alden Investment Strategy, and Udi Wertheimer, a recovering Bitcoin maxi, talk about Bitcoin Maximalism, how Bitcoin is developing, and what’s the future of Bitcoin’s security model.  <h3>Show highlights:</h3><ul>
<li>What the definition of Bitcoin maximalism is</li>
<li>whether BTC maximalism is toxic</li>
<li>whether Vitalik Buterin is still a bitcoiner and how Bitcoiners became the 'token police', according to Udi</li>
<li>why Lyn thinks Bitcoin has been attacked by the media since the beginning</li>
<li>the attacks by Bitcoin maximalists on Nic Carter and Andreas Antonopoulos</li>
<li>how adoption kicked in during previous cycles and why it benefitted BTC</li>
<li>what the different types of Bitcoiners are</li>
<li>what developments are being made around Bitcoin</li>
<li>the importance of Bitcoin being permissionless</li>
<li>what the use cases for Bitcoin are and whether it’s still a highly speculative asset</li>
<li>whether people care about using decentralized payment tools</li>
<li>how Lyn defines ‘ultra sound money’ and why she thinks that Bitcoin is better at that than ETH</li>
<li>whether Bitcoin’s security model needs to be fixed </li>
<li>why being able to run a node is essential for censorship resistance</li>
</ul><h3><a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/unchained2022">Take Unchained's 2022 survey!  </a></h3>Unchained is doing its <a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/unchained2022">annual survey</a>. Tell us how you think we’re doing and how we could improve, whether it be on the podcast, in the newsletter, or in our premium offering. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!  Thank you to our sponsors!<a href="https://crypto.onelink.me/J9Lg/unconfirmedcardearnfeb2021">Crypto.com</a><a href="http://chainalysis.com/unchained">Chainalysis</a><a href="https://minima.global/">Minima</a> Udi:<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/udiWertheimer">Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://t.co/OFz4KXKPEC">Substack</a></li>
<li>Previous Unchained episodes:</li>
<li><a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/eric-wall-and-udi-wertheimer-on-why-bitcoin-maximalism-is-like-a-shitcoin-community-ep-412/">Why Bitcoin Maximalism Is ‘Like a Shitcoin Community’</a></li>
</ul> Lyn:<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/LynAldenContact">Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lynalden.com/">Website</a></li>
<li>Previous Unchained episodes:</li>
<li><a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/how-will-inflation-impact-crypto-lyn-alden-and-mauricio-di-bartolomeo-explain-ep-380/">How Will Inflation Impact Crypto?</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/lyn-alden-and-raoul-pal-is-ethereum-a-good-investment/">Is Ethereum a Good Investment?</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-bitcoin-now-meltem-demirors-and-lyn-alden-on-the-perfect-conditions-for-bitcoin/">Why Bitcoin Now: Meltem Demirors and Lyn Alden on the Perfect Conditions for Bitcoin</a></li>
</ul><h3>Episode Links</h3>Previous Coverage of Unchained:<ul>
<li><a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/is-bitcoin-doomed-to-fail-eric-wall-and-justin-bons-face-off-ep-398/">Is Bitcoin Doomed to Fail? Eric Wall and Justin Bons Face Off</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/arthur-hayes-former-ethereum-skeptic-on-why-the-merge-makes-him-bullish-on-eth-ep-393/">Arthur Hayes, Former Ethereum Skeptic, on Why the Merge Makes Him Bullish on ETH</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://unchainedpodcast.com/with-the-merge-will-ethereum-take-over-bitcoins-title-as-digital-gold-ep-389/">With the Merge, Will Ethereum Take Over Bitcoin’s Title as Digital Gold?</a></li>
</ul> Bitcoin’s culture and security<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterizzo/2022/07/04/bitcoin-maximalism-is-dead-long-live-bitcoin-maximalism/?sh=36d4b765182b">Bitcoin Maximalism Is Dead, Long Live Bitcoin Maximalism</a> by Pete Rizo</li>
<li>
<a href="https://medium.com/@nic__carter/setting-the-record-straight-b4e1b415e7d9">Setting the record straight</a> by Nic Carter</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/10/11/the-rise-and-fall-of-bitcoin-maximalism/">The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin Culture</a> by Paul J. Dylan-Ennis</li>
<li>
<a href="https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths">Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution</a> by David Chapman</li>
<li>
<a href="https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflationary">Surprisingly, Tail Emission Is Not Inflationary</a> by Peter Todd</li>
<li>
<a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_Bons/status/1563912991015305216?s=20&t=3EI6s0q5qwi1bKgqXFY7Wg">Justin Bons’ thread</a> on BTC security model</li>
<li>
<a href="https://medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief-and-incomplete-history-of-censorship-in-r-bitcoin-c85a290fe43">A (brief and incomplete) history of censorship in /r/Bitcoin </a>by John Blocke</li>
</ul><a href="https://ultrasound.money/">Ultra sound money</a>

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