This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson New York’s massive fraud case against the Trumps; Ron DeSantis’ treatments of asylum seekers; and Dahlia Lithwick’s Lady Justice.  Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0691174482/?tag=slatmaga-20">Trading Barriers: Immigration and the Remaking of Globalization</a>, Margaret E. Peters<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B09RTPTFTJ/?tag=slatmaga-20">Lady Justice: Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America</a>, by Dahlia LithwickRuth Igielnik for The New York Times: “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/upshot/donald-trump-approval-poll.html">Trump Support Remains Unmoved by Investigations, Poll Find</a>s”Here are this week’s chatters:John: It was supposed to be...<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451648707/?tag=slatmaga-20">The Philosophy of Modern Song</a>, by Bob DylanEmily: <a href="https://www.hbo.com/somebody-somewhere">Somebody Somewhere</a>; <a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs">Reservation Dogs</a>David: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZHpPeacOuk">The Space Force Anthem</a>Listener chatter from Danny Edgel: Frank Vaisvilas and Sarah Volpenhein for The Green Bay Press-Gazette: “<a href="https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/native-american-issues/2022/09/14/indian-child-welfare-act-us-supreme-court-oneida-nation-brief-wisconsin/8001515001/">Oneida Nation Steps In To Defend Indian Child Welfare Act In Us Supreme Court Case</a>”For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment Emily, David, and John discuss the vacation of Adnan Syed’s murder conviction. Tweet us your questions and chatters <a href="https://twitter.com/slategabfest?lang=en">@SlateGabfest</a> or email us at gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)Podcast production by Cheyna Roth.Research by Bridgette Dunlap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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